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+ | * [[NASB]] - ''... '''expanse''' in the midst of the waters, ... God made the '''expanse''', and separated the waters which were below the '''expanse''' from the waters which were above the '''expanse'''; and it was so''. | ||
+ | * '''vattnet ovan fästet''' - i en tänkbar biblisk kosmologi skulle vatten (ovan fästet) kunna finnas längst ut vid rymdens yttersta gräns<ref name="mystery">[http://www.icr.org/article/3472 Humphreys, D. R. 2007. Creation Cosmologies Solve Spacecraft Mystery. Acts & Facts. 36 (10): 10.], ICR.</ref>, (se bild samt [[Ps 148:4]] ("''...<font color="#000000">...I vatten ovan himmelen.</font>''"). Vattenmängderna placerade ytterst (~90%) skulle ge utåtverkande [[gravitation]]seffekter (att jämföra med "inåt" med merparten av massan innanför). En sådan kosmologisk modell (har föreslagits av Russel Humphrey<ref name="Russel">[http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/3568/ D. Russel Humphreys], Ph.D.</ref>) skulle inte behöva extra påhängsteorier som "mörk materia" och "mörk energi" som i Big Bang-modellen. <br/>Modellen vill förklara även tidsproblemet med avlägset stjärnljus om jorden bara funnits i 6 000 år.<br>'''Modellen utgår ifrån''' att jorden är ca 6 000 år gammal, men med annan tideräkning i rymden under den fas då tidrummet snabbt expanderade, se [[1 Mos 1:14|Dag 4]] då "himlarna sträcktes ut" [[Jes 40:22]], och gravitationseffekter "utåt" (modellen har alltså endast ca 1/8 av universums massa ''innanför'' vattenhöljet). | ||
- | + | * '''Viktigt''' är också att påpeka att ingen ''<u>vet</u>'' hur universum skapats (i fysikaliska termer). Sekulära modeller skapar dock fler problem än de löser, och bara få bibelställen finns som ger uppslag för tankar att undersöka vidare. | |
- | * ''' | + | * '''Diskutera''' modellen [http://rilnews.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=3 på vårt forum]! |
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- | + | == In English == | |
+ | * '''waters... above the firmament''' - in a thinkable biblical cosmoloy it could exist big amounts of water at the outermost borders of space<ref name="mystery"/> (see the picture, and [[Ps 148:4]] ("......waters that be above the heavens"). The water volumes located farthest out in space (~90% of all water) would give an outward-acting gravitational effect, as opposed to an "inward" effect, if most of the mass were located inside as presently assumed. The cosmological model proposed by Russel Humphrey<ref name="Russel"/> does ''not'' need any extra semi theories such as "dark matter" and "dark energy" like the Big Bang model does. <br>This new cosmological model by R. Humphrey would also explain the so called "distant starlight problem" (how could light possible have made it from so far distances to us, that is, more than 6000 light years, if the earth only have existed for 6 000 years). <br>The model assumes that the earth is about 6 000 years old, but with a different time measure in space during the stage when the time-space expanded rapidly on Day 4 when "the heavens were stretched out" [[Isaiah 40:22]], and gravitational effects "outwards" (since this model has only approximately 1/8 of the universe's mass of water ''inside'' the "water shell"). | ||
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+ | * It is important to note that none ''knows'' exactly how the universe was created (in physical terms). Secular models creates more problems than they solve though, and only a few verses in the Bible suggests ideas about ''how'' God did it. | ||
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+ | Discuss the model on [http://rilnews.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=3 our forum]! | ||
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Nuvarande version från 14 augusti 2010 kl. 19.57
Rymdens utvidgning | 1 Mos 1:7 | Ps 148:4 | Job 9:8 | Job 26:7 | Jes 40:22 | Jes 42:5 | Jes 44:24 | Jes 45:12 | Jes 51:13 | Jer 10:12 | Jer 51:15 | Sak 12:1 |
Himlar ovanför: | 1 Mos 1:7 | Job 26:7 | Ps 148:4 | Jes 40:22 | Jes 44:24 | Sak 12:1
- NASB - ... expanse in the midst of the waters, ... God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so.
- vattnet ovan fästet - i en tänkbar biblisk kosmologi skulle vatten (ovan fästet) kunna finnas längst ut vid rymdens yttersta gräns[1], (se bild samt Ps 148:4 ("......I vatten ovan himmelen."). Vattenmängderna placerade ytterst (~90%) skulle ge utåtverkande gravitationseffekter (att jämföra med "inåt" med merparten av massan innanför). En sådan kosmologisk modell (har föreslagits av Russel Humphrey[2]) skulle inte behöva extra påhängsteorier som "mörk materia" och "mörk energi" som i Big Bang-modellen.
Modellen vill förklara även tidsproblemet med avlägset stjärnljus om jorden bara funnits i 6 000 år.
Modellen utgår ifrån att jorden är ca 6 000 år gammal, men med annan tideräkning i rymden under den fas då tidrummet snabbt expanderade, se Dag 4 då "himlarna sträcktes ut" Jes 40:22, och gravitationseffekter "utåt" (modellen har alltså endast ca 1/8 av universums massa innanför vattenhöljet).
- Viktigt är också att påpeka att ingen vet hur universum skapats (i fysikaliska termer). Sekulära modeller skapar dock fler problem än de löser, och bara få bibelställen finns som ger uppslag för tankar att undersöka vidare.
- Diskutera modellen på vårt forum!
In English
- waters... above the firmament - in a thinkable biblical cosmoloy it could exist big amounts of water at the outermost borders of space[1] (see the picture, and Ps 148:4 ("......waters that be above the heavens"). The water volumes located farthest out in space (~90% of all water) would give an outward-acting gravitational effect, as opposed to an "inward" effect, if most of the mass were located inside as presently assumed. The cosmological model proposed by Russel Humphrey[2] does not need any extra semi theories such as "dark matter" and "dark energy" like the Big Bang model does.
This new cosmological model by R. Humphrey would also explain the so called "distant starlight problem" (how could light possible have made it from so far distances to us, that is, more than 6000 light years, if the earth only have existed for 6 000 years).
The model assumes that the earth is about 6 000 years old, but with a different time measure in space during the stage when the time-space expanded rapidly on Day 4 when "the heavens were stretched out" Isaiah 40:22, and gravitational effects "outwards" (since this model has only approximately 1/8 of the universe's mass of water inside the "water shell").
- It is important to note that none knows exactly how the universe was created (in physical terms). Secular models creates more problems than they solve though, and only a few verses in the Bible suggests ideas about how God did it.
Discuss the model on our forum!